Update on February 12: Final votes were today. Barack Obama voted against telecom immunity — as did Harry Reid and 29 other Democrats. John McCain along with every single Republican Senator, Joe Lieberman, and 19 Democrats voted for. More here.
Update on Super Tuesday: Ari Melber’s Nation article gives the current snapshot; read the thread for more.
Russ Feingold’s video on YouTube sums it up perfectly:
This Slashdot post on The Technical Risks of the “Protect” America Act is particularly timely given Paul Kiel’s TPMMuckracker update on the situation in Washington: the attempt to invoke cloture went down in flames, with Democrats in general hanging tough, and signs of movement among some key Republicans. This leaves the backers of the bill in a very tough position. (Update on 1/30: the House and Senate have both passed a 15-day extension. See below.) in 30 seconds.And now, on top of that:
YouTube and Slashdot matter here because they expose the issue to large numbers of people who wouldn’t otherwise be aware of it. This dynamic lets courageous politicians, activists, technologists, and others who are willing to take a stand get the word out more broadly — and exposes those who are taking craven, opportunistic, and uninformed stances. In a climate where much of the mainstream media follows the administration’s and telco’s framing, social networking technologies allow other perspectives to be fairly heard … and gives people the information to make up their own minds.
jon | 30-Jan-08 at 8:27 am | Permalink
Actually, yesterday was a pretty good day for civil liberties on Slashdot. This report means any politician who votes for the “Protect” America Act will have to answer some very tough questions when running for re-election: “You and your staff didn’t read this report? Or you didn’t understand it? Are you really qualified to protect America?” The House voted to push back the deadline for surveillance bill for 15 days and then went home, leaving the Senate basically no option but to extend — Ryan Singel’s piece on Wired’s Threat Level describes the situation, and gives a hint of the House/Senate power dynamics. As Paul Kiel reports on TPMMuckraker, the latest statement from Harry Reid emphasizes that “Senator Reid is closely working with all Democrats including Senators Feingold and Dodd on this issue.” The Administration’s bluff has been called; Chris Dodd for Attorney General! And there will be plenty of time for this new report to be brought forward under the bright lights of DC. Who knows what’ll happen, but it’s hard to imagine a better framing for the discussion.
And despite the Qtrax fiasco, there’s good news on the privacy and DRM fronts as well. European Union countries can refuse to disclose names of file sharers on the Internet in civil cases. Spain has some very strong laws here; this decision says the EU laws and treaties don’t trump them. And a magistrate proposed “rule 11-ing” (sanctioning and fining) record companies and lawyers for “gamesmanship” in their lawsuits. This is a blow against shady lawyers (and large corporations employing them) everywhere, and over time may well extend to suits trying to pierce anonymity.
jon | 30-Jan-08 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
Meanwhile in the rest of the world, the only remaining Democratic candidate who’s opposed Real ID dropped out of the race. Ah well. [As a consolation prize, so did anti-civil-liberties Rudy “at least I beat Ron Paul once before throwing in the towel” Giuliani; and in both cases, the writing was increasingly on the wall — the announcements just formalize it.] Edwards is being smart here, maximizing the value of his endorsement while the race is still viewed as up in the air.
I think it’s likely that the extended debate over surveillance — between now and the election — will change a lot of people’s opinions about Real ID, hopefully including both Obama and Clinton. Edwards for Secretary of Homeland Security!
jon | 30-Jan-08 at 12:14 pm | Permalink
“America’s newspaper of record” weighs in, talking about the “faulty logic — the sort that has made reasoned debate with this administration so difficult in Bush’s state of the union address:
Well said. A fine complement to the video, Slashdot piece, technical report, and Bruce Schneier’s excellent Wired piece dissecting the misleading “tradeoff” between security and privacy.
jon | 30-Jan-08 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
My Facebook feed:
(The link is back to this thread.)
jon | 30-Jan-08 at 11:41 pm | Permalink
And continuing on the civil liberties theme: Habeas Lawyers for Obama.
And here’s something I didn’t know:
The comment thread on MyDD is interesting as well, with a great anecdote about Obama calling up his former colleague Cass Sunstein and disagreeing with a position he had taken about the NSA!
I’m impressed. Combine this with his support for an inclusive Employment Non-Discrimination act and repeal of DOMA and Obama is shaping up to be the strongest presidential candidate on civil liberties in a very long time …
Update on 1/31, surfing during the debate: Al Giordano’s The Field covers Ted Kennedy’s appearance on El PiolÃn (the most popular show in the US, and huge in Southern California), and quotes Teddy as saying “Only two senators marched for immigrant rights on May 1, 2006, one in Washington and the other in Chicago. I marched in Washington and Barack Obama marched in Chicago. He was not afraid to stand up when others wouldn’t…. I’m committed to coming back on the immigration bill and Barack Obama will be with me. He is the one candidate who has said that he can do this in his first term.†Lengthy thread on Kos, too.
jon | 31-Jan-08 at 12:00 am | Permalink
Back on the issue of warrantless searches, the blogosphere is playing a huge role here. As well as the high-profile TPMmuckraker and Threat Level, and a Daily Kos diary entry that just got ‘rescued’ to the front page, there are also locally-focused blogs that wind up connecting nationally. Check out Show Me Progress’ action alert thanking Missourians and Sen. McCaskill for her courageous vote on Monday, and reminding everybody that the job’s not done — helpfully providing phone, fax, and addresses. There’s a comment “thanks for this great work from New Jersey” and a link out to Blue Jersey. How long till a similar post, customized for New Jersey’s congresspeople, is up on that site?
And there’s a lot of dialog going on. Check out Courage Campaign’s page, with a criticism of the Feinstein/Specter amendments — and a quick and detailed response from Scott Garber, Senator Feinstein’s Communication Director.
jon | 31-Jan-08 at 10:53 pm | Permalink
From mcjoan on Daily Kos: Dems didn’t cave!: five amendments will get a simple majority vote, including immunity, sequestration, and bulk collection, and additionally “they agreed to accept as part of the base bill Sen. Feingold’s amendment that would require that Congress be given timely access to FISA Court pleadings, opinions, and decisions that contain significant interpretations of law, retroactive five years.”
jon | 01-Feb-08 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
Here’s Feingold’s statement.
mcjoan’s Time to lead on Daily Kos has Obama and Clinton’s statements, and asks whether or not they’ll be in DC for Monday’s votes.
jon | 02-Feb-08 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
I started a thread on Will Obama and Clinton vote on the surveillance bill on Monday? on the Facebook Barack Obama discussion board. Everybody seems to be assuming the answer is no; it seems to me that either or both of the candidates might realize the value of being on the floor in an important vote of civil liberties the day before Super Tuesday….
jon | 02-Feb-08 at 9:50 pm | Permalink
Richard Clarke, former Homeland Security Advisor, weighs in with Bush legacy: Setting a standard in fear-mongering in the Philadelphia Inquirer:
Discussion on Kos.
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jon | 05-Feb-08 at 2:24 pm | Permalink
The title of Ari Melber’s Will the Senate OK More Bush Spying? asks the $64,000 question. It’s a pretty clear choice:
The vote has been pushed back. Does this make it possible for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to show up, both to cast their own votes and try to persuade their colleagues?
We shall see …
jon | 12-Feb-08 at 8:47 pm | Permalink
Final votes were today. Barack Obama voted against telecom immunity — as did Harry Reid and 29 other Democrats. John McCain along with every single Republican Senator, Joe Lieberman, and 19 Democrats voted for.
More here.
Aleda | 22-Oct-08 at 5:04 pm | Permalink
Thanks for writing this.